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Accept my humble pranamas.
I read about Urmi's soul flying out of the body and Ram Narayan occupying it to fulfill his desire to be with the family. So my question is " is the popular idea of saying s/he is possessed is also the same way". Here in my place there are practitioners who do "Samohini" -something like...they send say Me to trance and ask me to see in my body for any other souls residing in that body. They also help in seeing the past births. O I got the word it's called past life regression. Back to my question so in case of urmi can we say she was possessed?
2) can more than one soul reside in one body?
3) How are Baba, Mata, Urmi, Urva, Basantha,.........and other mathangs? Convey my pranamas to all of them.
4)Very important question, how to realise and utilise the potential of soul? Hanuman says don't interpret or respond to the senses. I need a little more 'How' explanation on this. (this is not arrogancy. Please consider as ignorance and forgive me if I have asked anything wrong)
Understand the core concept of 'flying out of body' from chapter 5 and 'possession' from the local practitioner. Then you are the best person to judge whether they are same or different. From the way you are describing, probably the body of Sulochna in chapter 14 can be called as 'possessed'. Urmi left the body at will, and as per the plan of Lord Hanuman. It cannot be called as 'possessed'.
Yes, more than one soul can reside in one body. One would take the driver's seat and another one would take the backseat. It happens very often in fact. Most people have their driver's seat occupied by a Surrah or an Asurrah and their own soul remains in the backseat. They don't even realize that their body is being driven by a Surrah/Asurrah.
Supreme knowledge is the only way to utilize the potential of soul. Unfortunately, seeking a ready-made answer for 'how' can only get you 'information' not 'supreme knowledge'. The pursuit of 'how' gets you supreme knowledge, not the 'destination'. Collect honey like a bee does. Don't buy a bottle from market.
Accept my humble pranamas. I am reading this probably 2time. The layer of illusion seems to get shaken now. I felt this is a gradual process as the soul has taken many bodies and got bound by karmas and desires. So in that case your 108 hours of arpanam is insufficient. Simply because there are chances for people like me to take time to understand it.
2) I am still not clear whether mathangs are monkeys or humans. If you want to know about me, well than I look like human but am monkey in side.(no intentions to compare with mathangs or other wise monkeys)
3)in bhaghavat gita Lord Krishna says all things in this universe are fragments of me. So is going back to mukthisagar should be the goal or going back to the lord(merge with him)
4)are mukthi and moksha two different things?
You may follow your family tradition for Arpanam. We have been instructed to put in place the Mathang tradition which calls for Arpanam within 108 of reading the chapter for first time. It is like breaking coconut. It is considered best if the coconut is broken in first attempt.
Mukthi and Moksha are the same thing. We cannot influence your soul's goal. There are thousands of souls who prefer either Shivaloka or Vishnuloka over Moksha. But as described in chapter 13, Moksha is the ultimate destination for a soul. (Actually it is something where all destinations end. So it cannot be called destination.) To be able to get Moksha, one has to let go off their identity. That is what is difficult for most souls. Suppose you are given two options - (1) A trip to Paris (2) A trip to heaven. The condition is that you cannot carry any luggage. You get excited. Of course heaven is better than Paris. So you would choose heaven. But then the flight attendant tells you that you cannot carry any luggage. You frown at her and say, 'I have no luggage.' and then the flight attendant says, "Your body itself is the luggage'. Then you will probably freak out, turn around and run away as fast as you can.
My humble pranamas to Setuu and Mathangs because of whom I am bless to get association with Lord Hanuman and the Supreme Lord. Thank you.
My question is
1) is Shukra, the asurrah Guru same as the Shukra in the nine planets?
2) if yes then why do we offer him pooja and namaskaras ( how is he eligible for pooja when he is Guru for asurrah)
3) are asurrahs and surrahs inevitable in human life?
4) how to guard against the hijack of these surrahs & asurrah? First of all is it necessary to guard?(as seen in chapters they only seem to put souls in an endless desire and karma)
In this age of ignorance, everything has been messed up. All the ancient scriptures have been distorted. Here is a case in point.
There is a Jyothish Acharya. He is doing experiments. He is trying to superimpose data related to positions of planets on the data related to conditions of human life. After crunching all the data, he figures out that there is planet "X" whose positions determine influence of Asurrahs in human life. He concludes that nature of planet "X" is somewhat like that of the Asurrah Guru. For sake of memorizing, he names this planet 'Shukra".
Then he figures out a procedure to minimize the influence of planet 'X" in human life. He calls this procedure "Shukra Pooja".
Centuries later, some fools with addled minds but high authority mess it all up and conclude that this planet itself is the Asurrah Guru.
Supreme knowledge is the only guard against Surrahs/Asurrahs. When you become aware enough to differentiate between your own actions and the actions of Surrahs/Asurrahs, you are guarded. Then you won't mistake their actions as your own. You won't own up their misdeeds.
Once i meet lord hanuman dada i will ask him what to do in life. Right now i am thinking as lord rama is archetype. As he obeyed his parents i also do. I go to office and do dinural actovoties. But after i meet lord hanumandada he will take me to cold mountains and will teach me meditation. I will do penance with him. Lord will enjoin me to leave sinful ways and will pious my soul like lord rama and shivaji soul. I will perform activities driven by lord hanumandada. I know i am sinful so he is not appearing in front of me.but one day i will get my sins cut by lord hanuman dada and i will also leave this body and will be freed to roam with shri bhagwan.
I had very bad times in past but by the grace of lord i am now in better situations. I am really heartliy thankful to my helping hands. I do not know but i am bold with postivity around me. I am sure lord Hanuman dada is only one who was with me in my bad times. But please do not leave me. I want your warmth and protection from sins. Also i want you to magically separate me from my body. And take me to supreme happiness of abode of supreme lord.i had experienced that truth and joy.yes there was only joy and light and i do not know what was that. But it was only joy.no sorrow only joy. I was not in my body. I do not know. I want to enjoy freedom. I want to fly like that experience. What was that? How can i explain in words? It was only light.light and light.
That cannot be explained in words.
I have huge doubts.If Lord Vishnu is so nice that he cares so much about the wishes of souls why he left huge bugs in this system like losing loved ones death old age suffering
Even if I m soul i should be free to move around and not limited to this useless human body while Hanuman ji has a merry time being immortal and flying around
Why this inequality?
Everyday so many people suffer so much here on this useless planet while Our creator is busy sleeping on some ocean .why the hell did he create me.I dont want to be part of all this .I tried Hanuman ji s technique of leaving my body but as expected it didnt work
Why cant i be at peace and away from all fears that grip all humans at each step.
Who created this useless Maya .It is God only whose energy it is as per Gita.
Why all this drama of God being good but our fault that we are trapped.If he didnt create this mess I would not be suffering.
You have used "I" several times in this write-up. Who is this "I"? If you pursue your quest, you will be glad to discover that you are at the liberty of choosing your "I". You have a choice. You can become an "I" which flies around. You can become an "I" which sleeps peacefully on some ocean. Or you can remain the "I" which bickers about the mess of Maya.
Jai Sai Ram
I have been a devotee of Lord Hanuman from some years. I haven't formally accepted any form of God as Guru, though I have been following Lord Sai Baba, Devi and Lord Hanuman. I read about the Facebook event on your FB Page about Guru Pournima event. I regard Lord Hanuman as my elder brother, and address Him as Anna, the South Indian word for elder brother. Some days back, though I had no inking of anything to do on Guru Pournima, Hanumanji injected a thought in my mind that I should accept Him as Guru on Guru Pournima. I had never thought as such, as like formally accepting Him as Guru, as I like calling Him as elder brother.
Could you kindly tell me what procedure or ritual should I perform on Guru Pournima to formally accept Him as my Guru for life ? I don't have any idea on this. Please guide me , Hanuman Anna. You Yourself injected the thought in Your Grace and Love, and You only should clarify as to how should I formally accept You as my beloved Guru.
| Ram | | Jai Hanuman |
When you accept a Guru, you realize the presence of Guru who was already there in your life. If you have realized that Lord Hanuman is playing role of your Guru in your life, you can perform a Upnayana ceremony as per your family traditions. If that sounds too complex, you can simply start wearing a sacred thread on your wrist as a symbol of your Guru-disciple relationship with Lord Hanuman.
Dear setuu group,
In my experience your answer just touched me, i will made more effort, as you only helped me to realise me about Maya, but i most live in samskara prithu level because i have to do my responsibility, and am just 21yr old, i cant interact with people to the level i live with myself which u called chitta or atma prithu, i remember that feeling, and try to experience it when am alone or when i have to take important decisions.
Well i want to clear one doubt, what is Siddhi..??
In the page history of mathang i found this.
Why Lord Hanuman's original footprints are visible till date at this place? Because this is the place where Hanuman attained 8th and last Siddhi which is known as Ishatvam. Thus He attained all 8 Sidhhis by his deep devotion towards Lord Ram. When He landed on this hill and found Mata Seetha there, He was overjoyed as He was able to accomplish the task given by His master (of searching Mata Seetha). In joy He closed His eyes and remembered the lotus feet of Lord Rama. As soon as He closed His eyes, He had an amazing experience.
It is impossible to describe this vision of Lord Hanuman in words. In almost all the versions of Ramayana known in India, Thailand and other places, the poets have described it as a vision which only the supreme lord Shri Ram can describe. Words cannot describe that vision. The 8th Sidhdhi i.e. Ishatvam is said attained when Yogi becomes One with the Supreme. Though Lord Hanuman had deep devotion and surrender towards Lord Rama, It is at Seetha Eliya that He experienced oneness with Rama- the supreme lord. That is why the chapter of Ramayana which describes the meeting of Lord Hanuman with Mata Seetha (called Sundar Kand in Valmiki Ramayana) is said to be the greatest chapter.
When Renuka Ma attained Godhood, she attained the eighth level,
And here The Hanuman ji too attained 8 siddhis termed as Ishatvam.
I dont want to ask question on it, because i dont know what is siddhi, i want to read from you its meaning and relation if any.
I didnt used any special character now
The journey between Aatm-Prithu and Godhood has many milestones. In one of the system of classification, there are 8 such milestones which are called Siddhis.
Jai Sri Ram Jai Hanuman !!!
Respected higher souls,
Lord Vishnu is my friend, guide His leelas attract me like no other, though I still have high respect towards Lord Ganesh, LordShiva&Lalitambika, Lord Hanuman, Lord Murugan..
1. I wish my husband gets good longterm job, So we can spend our energy on devotional activites and provide better future for our son.
2. I have stopped traditional puja like litting diya, arpanam(prasadam) at home, waiting to get better place so I can sit and do puja whole heartedly. but im feeling guilty for not making more efforts. I still pray in my heart though ask for blessing of Lord Vishnu and Lord Hanuman. Am I doing it right?
3.Prayer: O Lord Hanuman, let me be happy and content. Let all my needs be met. Please help me forgive and forget my bad memories.
Please pass my humble queries and prayer to Lord Hanuman.
I'm helpless I keep thinking about people who used to like me I am not sure whether they really like me or not because of them I had problems however when they stop liking me just because they think I'm in happy place is it my fault or there's? I hope Lord Hanuman helps me get over bad memories
Jai SRIRAMARAMARAMA !!!!
(1) You should not feel any need of approval of others on your relationship with your God. If it feels right to your soul, it is right. The traditions set by Rishis in general may be overruled by the traditions of the family set by the family Guru/ancestors. And traditions of family can be overruled by the devotee if their soul is connected with the Lord.
(2) It is nobody's fault. Human relationships of Kaliyuga work this way only. If you are in a bad position, your relatives/friends will desert you out of contempt. If you are in good position, they will desert you out of jealousy/misunderstanding. Focus on the only relationship which is true: Your soul's relationship with the supreme.
Edit: Dear Setuu and Mataang friends
I had prayed to Lord Hanuman for my friend's brother & got to see that he has recovered to a great extent from a situation where very few believed that he would survive. Pls do inform in Sakshat Hanuman pooja.
Lord Hanuman Pls fulfill MY desire
Dear Setuu and Mataang friends
How do I differentiate between my mind and my soul.....everytime my mind says something I think my soul is speaking....I am bit confused....Pls help
Pls ask Lord Hanuman about one incident
It was 11th April 2016....one of my colleague, a devotee of Lord Hanuman was going to a bank to transfer some cash to his sister in Gurgaon....me and another colleague was accompanying him....and we were in kolkata city....on the corner of the road there is a beautiful poster of Lord Hanuman & 4 lines were written in Hindi....we could decode 3 lines but couldn't decode the 4th line....on the arrival of the first colleague who was Lord Hanuman devotee came and helped us decode the line and said that it was a part of Hanuman chalisa. ...it was about 3pm.....at approx 5pm he got a call that his brother had an accident @Mathura @approx 3 pm....the person was on comma for about 10 days or so....hospitalized with brain clot and operated limb for about 20 days...now he is discharged though he is yet to recover his memory. ...I somehow see a link of Lord Hanuman in the entire episode in saving his life.....though not clear why did so serious accident happen at the 1st place.....can you pls inquire and let me know...
Seek the source of an experience. Seek to know the observer, not the observed. Its like cinema hall of Maya. Don't indulge yourself in what is playing on the screen. Instead look out for the projector which is projecting those illusionary images on screen.
Level1: For example, you are reading these words right now on a device (computer/mobile). Here the 'observed' is the words you are reading. Find out who is the 'observer here'. Your mind?
Level 2: Immediately after reading the above line, you have risen to another level of observation. Now you are not only reading these words, but also trying to look at the one who is reading these words. So basically your observation scope = The observed + the observer of level 1
Level 3: Then you can rise again and find out who is the observer at level 2 so as to make your observation scope = The observed + the observer of level 1 + the observer 2
You keep rising like this. Then you will be able to clearly differentiate between the soul and the mind.
In around August 2003, i came back from delhi, where i went to prepare for certain exam. it was slightly raining and then electricity went kaput...we all were trying to sleep. I was lying on one corner of the bed while my mother was lying on another side. Just two of us in the room.while I was sleeping...my eyes were shut..I was lying on bed...I saw the room in which I was sleeping ...I saw a dark girl ...who was of about 12 to 13 year old ...wearing a skirt and top...which I used to wear as a child...she entered in my room through an open door and sat next to me while I was sleeping...
And then suddenly I felt wave formation in my body...3 times...and I woke up.
I went to my father immediately and narrated it...He said it happens when u r half asleep and half awake.
It wasn't a dream...It wasn't a waking reality. ..what was it...
And who entered my body...me or that girl?
Before this incident only significant dream I had was of kali matas image.it happened just the night before I was leaving for delhi.It was like a huge poster of goddess kali and that was all and nothing else...There was nothing except her...and there was no movement in that dream...nothing just a kalis image.
This dream did bad for me because In all things I started to desperately seek signals from mata and wasn't applying my intellect.
I had this trust in my dreams because of this one particular dream may be in 2001 or 2002. .I was trying to save a badly injured dog, his one eye had come out. While I was doing whatever I could to heal him...I had this dream...where I am cooking a kheer. I started cooking kheer in the day, in the dream I am stiring it ...now it is evening and when I stop to look at the kheer the milk is spilled.
I woke up and immediately I knew that dog won't survive...It died the same day In the evening.
After this dream I started to believe in my dreams.
I have had few more significant dreams but right now I am curious about that dark girl who was she?
It is unfortunate that even after reading all the chapters, your mind is buzzing with this query. Dreams are dumping grounds of your unwanted/unfulfillable desires. Do not bring them back into MaanavLoka reality by thinking about them or trying to find a meaning behind them. This approach has cost you a lot in your life and you are still not giving it up. Don't let your Swapanloka reality drive your MaanavLoka reality. If you read experiences of other devotees related to dreams, and the answer they got in Sakshat Hanuman Pooja, you would be able to understand how desires become recipe of dreams. We always advise devotees to never think about dreams, especially bad dreams, after waking up.
Thank you for your mail & guidance.
In last 15 years, I have tried to perform Sadhna/ reciting of mantras more than 15 times for a period ranging from 30 minutes to 60 minutes but on all the occasions some psychiatric medical complication develops as it leads to severe headache, change in behavior, positive or negative symptoms leading to consultation with Psychiatrist who always advises me against this.
He does not allow me to do "Sudarshan Kriya" which is the most popular & effective source of mediation in Art of Living. Keeping above in mind I seek your guidance as this has not worked well in the past despite my keen desire on medical grounds but I am unable to control my urge for prayer & meditation.
Being experienced & having come across wide range of problems related with this, I am sure you will guide me through this.
Instead of Kriya Sadhana, you should do Gyan Sadhana (ज्ञान साधना) | This will improve your health problems also. Seek knowledge, the supreme knowledge. Every time you experience what other people cannot, exploit it to your advantage and seek truth.We see that you have not read even a single chapter of Lord Hanuman's Leelas sincerely. This shows your restlessness and tendency to gain temporary peace. You have to turn towards Gnana Sadhana. For a start, read the chapters at setuu.org sincerely. From chapter 1 itself, you will feel improvement.
Dear Setuu friends and Matangs,
Milk of the cow Kamdhenu is a combination of fluid of space for the existence of any object and threads of time in order to have an impression of that object.
Kamdhenu is the soul. If I have control on my desires (since 5 senses control my desires) then Lord Indra and lord Kaal will be indebted to me and will work according to my wish.
Since Rishis had complete control on their senses, hence Lord Indra and Kaal were indebted to them and in the process delivered whatever the Rishis demanded.
Pls let me know whether this answer is correct or not. These days I don't get replies....pls do let me know....
Even if this answer is correct, I don't have any answer on replica of Manavlok. .... pls some hint.
If the above answer is correct, Pls Lord Hanuman bless me so that my desire gets fulfilled.
A question is an opportunity to help realize divine powers. When you seek an answer just to silence your mind, you lose that opportunity.
You haven't solved the puzzle yet. It is not a usual puzzle. When you solve this, you yourself will get the power to fulfill your desires. You won't be able to write down the answer of this puzzle. You won't be able to tell the answer to anyone. You will float in absolute bliss. The hint is that you have to question the very existence of your body. Therein lies the secret of Trishanku's world also.
Shat Shat Naman
I'm of age 30 years & I have some queries in my mind. Till now I have read all the chapters published in setuu.org.
I have been born and bought up in a environment where studies were given utter importance, so in accordance to that my parents have dreams that they see in their child, but a child I failed to deliver.
As the time passed by, so do I kept performing karma. I believed in lord Sai Ram & devoted myself, but I keep asking for wishes from the lord, but they were never fulfilled. Then I thought may be I'm not good enough that Lord Sai Ram will ever fulfill my wishes & even got angered from lord & assumed that lord will never pay any heed to my voice.
I turn to lord Hanuman ji & started devoting myself. But sometimes I promise lord Hanuman that I'll not do few things & I broke the promise and does those things, which I believe makes lord Hanuman ji take his eyes from me .
Now since we are trapped in Maya, but in this Maya world as a mortal human being I have some duties to perform. One of the duties are to make my parents proud by my achievements (which I failed to deliver).
I prayed to lord Hanuman ji to fulfill my wishes, which I think wont be fulfilled since I failed as a soul to devote myself fully to him.
So whatever I do whether its studies or pray or devotion, I actually failed. As a soul I'm unable to connect to Lord Hanuman ji. I'm completely blank now to as what I want to do, what I want to achieve in my life.
I do recite Lord Hanuman ji name everyday but not whole heatedly. I also know whatever I do I cant win the heart of Lord Hanuman ji & can never be his devotee although I wanted to be.
Also If my wishes are not fulfilled I ll keep asking for them to be fulfilled & remain trapped in maya world forever
Setuu please guide me since I'm highly confused to what I want to do in my life. I read teh chapters once or twice , they leave their impression on my mind for a day or two, then I go back regular course of life & obeying to Maya world rules
First of all detach yourself from your body-mind. You are a soul. Not body-mind. Let the soul witness activities of body-mind. Even if body-mind does something wrong, don't let that leave any impression on your soul. This way, you can keep your soul pure even when body-mind is not pure. Slowly, you will see that your body-mind will also start falling on right track.
When your soul is pure, you can connect with Lord Hanuman, no matter what your body-mind are up to.
Another thing, keep everything between your soul and Lord Hanuman. Don't bring your family or society in between. There are millions of people around you. When you start living as per their criteria, you in effect put burden of millions of suffering souls onto your soul. Figure out what you want to do in your life. You means your soul. What is your higher purpose? Don't let 'making parents proud' become your purpose. It should only be a side product of whatever you do. Don't bring your parents' Karma onto your soul. Free yourself from attachment. It will benefit you as well as your parents. Remember, attachment is not same as love. Attachment complicates things. It adds up others' Karma onto your soul while love frees you.
Figure out what you like to do and do that irrespective of what your family or society expects. When you follow your own goal without bringing others into picture, Lord Hanuman will certainly help you. You will achieve your goals and happiness of people around you will be a side product.
I am sending my experience via email because of the error.
I was having a question deep hidden but i didnt knw whether it was a valid question or not..
The question was, a soul has a desires karma system to follow and rise above them to get Moksha, if there is swapnlok where all The desires get purged by Indra deva, so there must a loka where we can purged our karma, yes manavlok helps to settle the karmas but that illusion of kaliyug is so dense that sometimes evolving souls doesn't evolves because of illusionary knowledge, worldly responsibility etc.
In chapter 18, Hanuman showed us that there is another universe which is identical to manavloka, if there is no kalpa cycles there then it should help a soul to be bound free from there karma and rise above this illusion, i dont know what am saying, my words for me seems pointless as both are illusion but ....
Another theory i am thinking on is..
If its trishanku's universe there then it is a illusion for a body named trishanku who see a whole universe identical to manavlok, means his soul is trapped in a simulation type bubble, where everything exists, there.
at first i imagined that it would be a whole new universe with exact planetary system, exact galaxy, etc but i questioned myself again, and realised that every soul is trapped in a bubble of simulation made by Maya, which can be seen, feel, and interacts too.
It thats a trishanku universe he is living in.. then i am too living in my own universe, which i can call it Prasad's universe. I have to conserve my universe unto my karma settled and desired fulfill...
Is this theory i am experiencing ..is right..?
Plz guide me if i am wrong..!
Please solve this point for me....!
I want to ask one more thing, as a reader lord Hanuman has already make that puzzle of Kaamdena Cow easy for us to solve, the name kamdhenu is Indra, and the word Cow here is Satyuga, that means in ashram they have a cow which means satyug and the kamdhenu fulfill the desires and modify thought and anything..
Is this right? Did i really got this puzzle? I know that i am not Rishi now but i am doing some acts which believe me that i am in the initial stage of Prithu or this idea is just illusion for me,? Am i not evolving though?
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You are posting experiencing after a long time which, not surprisingly though, have worked in your favor. Many devotees want to flush out thoughts as soon as they start aching the mind. You kept your thoughts with you for a long time and as a result, we see that you have evolved significantly.
Your experience shows a curve of evolution. First part of experience shows that you are at Samskara Prithu level. Your use of phrase "if there is no kalpa cycles there" shows that you didn't get chapter 18 properly. Are you sure that there is a Kalpa cycle in Maanavloka? How can you be sure that it is not merely an illusion sitting in your mind? How can you be sure that this is Maanavloka, not Trishanku Loka?
Second part of your experience however shows that you jumped to 'Chitt Prithu' level while writing this experience. (It could even be Aatm Prithu level). 'Prasad's universe' is an excellent thought process. Keep this path and you will arrive where you should.
You haven't got the Kaamdhenu puzzle yet. But you have drifted towards solving it.
Jai Sri Ram, Jai Jai wighna haran Hanuman,
I want to know from my Lord Hanuman that my only daughter
and Son who are now in age bracket of marriage are not agreeing for marriage. Proper marriage age is running out. Will they agree and get married ?
With bowing on your feet lord,
Please stop nudging them again and again for marriage. Make sure that nobody in your house makes jeering comments about marriage in front of them. Then their minds will fall silent. Then only I will be able to inject thought of marriage in their mind. Then they will agree for marriage.
Jai Shree Ram ! Jai Jai Hanuman !!
In chapter 18, it was mentioned that this truth cannot be explained to all. So if we came to know about this truth, does it means that we became eligible for this truth.
As you said (in answer of other devotees), that this chapter seeds questions in one's mind so that he\she can promote their selves. There is number of questions in my mind also and one of them is -
What is Kamdhenu ? I am still thinking about this only thing.
My Thoughts : in this question, sage said that don't limit to your mind and go beyond it to solve this puzzle. I think that to go beyond this mind we have to take help of this mind to awaken our "Chetana" because I think this is only thing which can help us to go beyond the mind. But to awaken "Chetna" we still need our mind which has all the Gyan in it.
All the knowledge I have, I came to the conclusion that Kamdhenu is the Guru | Milk is that knowledge given by Guru | That Gyan is the Base of "Astitava" and if we have that Gyan then we can fulfill our wish without efforts.
I also think that I know that how to fulfill wishes without efforts. In previous chapters you explained that if we give up our "Bhagye" the Lord Indra offer us some choice that we can select or demand. So we give up our "Bhagye" then we can fulfill our wishes from him. Right ? Is it that Gyan but this cannot be the base of Astitava.
But somewhere I am feeling that I am lacking somewhere it could be or couldn't be the correct answer.
I am confuse. please help me
Please correct me If I am wrong and help me to walk ahead.
Jai Shree Ram ! Jai Jai Hanuman !!
Kaamdhenu is not Guru. You are doing the same mistake which was done by king Arjuna. Human mind wants to categorize everything and put a label on it. Your mind wants to put the label of 'Kaamdhenu' on Guru. Mind wants comfort and questions give discomfort to mind. Specially the questions which have potential to take you beyond mind. Don't yield to tendencies of mind. If we tell the answer, you will lack the knowledge which you would have got in the process of getting the answer. Keep the question in mind. The answer will strike you all of a sudden.
As a Muslim, i wanted to know- who is Allah? Some websites mentioned Lord Shiva as Allah. Is it true? Ram
Consider this analogy.
Suppose you are running on a track to reach Moksha or absolute destination. ('Reaching' is not right word to use with Moksha but we can use it just for the sake of this analogy.) From that track you are not able to see your destination but you are able to see/experience some other things/beings/powers. You learn that those things/beings/powers are called Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, Hanuman and so on.
Now there is another track parallel to yours. Another person (Lets call him 'M') is running on that track. He also cannot see his destination. But he can see/experience some other powers and he calls them Allah, Koran etc.
Both of you are happily running on your respective tracks and hope to reach the final destination.
The illusion/Maya is watching both of you from the sky. (Just an analogy, Maya doesn't live in sky. She is everywhere.) She doesn't want any of you to reach your destination. She plays a trick. She manages to put a thought in mind of 'M'. M gets desire to chat with you so that he can pass time while moving towards his destination. M says, 'Hey whats up... What do you see in front of you?"
You reply, "I see Shiva."
M says, "It seems you are on a wrong track... Because I see Allah... and I am pretty sure that I am on right track."
Then you try to convince him that he is on wrong track, not you.
Finally both of you deviate from your path. You leave the correct path without even realizing.
'M' starts walking on a path where the destination is 'Convincing you', not 'Moksha' or ultimate destination.
You also start walking on a path where the destination is 'Convincing M' and not Moksha.
Maya manages to deviate both of you simply by playing one trick.
The moment you start comparing your experiences with the experiences of people running on other tracks, you get deviated.
So, comparing Shiva and Allah is walking in trap of Maya.
Follow only one Guru/system/path which suits you. No comparisons with other paths/Gurus/systems.
Jai Shri Ram | Jai Hanuman |
Chapter 18 has made me lighter as never before. Especially the last stage of Rishi Vishwamitra's experiment knock out the mind and strike at the soul. I have some queries regarding the chapter :
1) Where does Trishanku's Universe exist ? Does it exist parallel to us or like Patala Loka and Vyahriti Loka it exists above / below?
2) Urva asked the Lord that are we in ManavaLoka or Trishanku's Universe. My mind says the answer is Manavaloka, as Lord descends on Bhuloka, and Manavloka has been mentioned many many times by the Lord. My soul says there is no surety. The Lord can plant any kind of thoughts in our mind, and even if we are in another reality, He will make us believe something else. Kindly enlighten about the answer.
3) Lord Hanuman said that the nature of Trishanku's world is exactly similar to Manavaloka. But do there exist Rishis, Gods and all ? Does that world conform to the rules and regulations set by the Gods ?
4) Rishi Vishwamitra's experiement resulted in Satyavarta's soul entering the new body called Trishanku. However what about the animals, mountains and other beings that were created ; Rishi could create anything by using the fluid of space, but the souls cannot be. Are those beings just an illusion in an illusion ?
5) What happened to Trishanku afterwards ?
Jai Sai Ram.
Chapter 18 is a milestone in the journey towards Moksha. This chapter is meant to raise queries in seeker's mind. When Urva got query, Lord Hanuman just smiled. He didn't answer. It means that seeker should just ponder and churn out thoughts at this stage. Here is how the thought process of the seeker should be:
Does every soul has it's own universe in which everything else is just an illusion and only one soul is real? Your mind may reject this thought right away. But keep this thought alive. It doesn't mean that this thought is correct or incorrect. This thought will give you momentum on the path of Moksha. This thought should lead you to a puzzle similar to this :
Imagine you are born with invisible glasses on your eyes. When there is a "Red" thing out there, these glasses show it "black".
Suppose your friend is wearing red shirt. He says "How is this red shirt I bought recently?"
You will reply, "This is not red, this is black." [Because of the invisible glasses.]
Your friend will say, "Are you mad? This is red, not black." An argument will break out between you two. You will go to third person. If third person sees it as "Red", your friend will be proven right and they will advise you to see a doctor. If third person sees it as "black", you will be proved right and your friend will be declared 'mad' or 'colorblind' or something like that.
Now comes the illusion.
Imagine, along with those invisible lenses on eyes, you are born with invisible earmuffs on your ears. When these earmuffs hear a word "Red", they translate it to "Black".
So your friend says, "How is this red shirt I bought recently?"
Because of those invisible earmuffs, you will hear, "How is this BLACK shirt I bought recently?" [Because earmuff turns word 'red' into word 'black'.]
Now, no argument will break out because you saw it 'black' because of glasses and heard it 'black' because of earmuffs.
Got the illusion? You friend sees a shirt as red and you see it as black, still both of you don't notice the difference in perception of you two, thanks to the invisible glasses and earmuffs you are born with.
Keep pondering on these lines so that your soul can be prepared for the onward journey which starts from chapter 19.
As I hav observed so far... this time the permission for publishing seems to be delayed? Am I correct?! And the experiences are processed in hanuman pooja only after arpanam is offered right? other wise those experiences r not replied to? And Cld u plz explain wat exactly sakshat hanuman pooja means? is it done exactly like how mathangs performed it in presence of hanuman around the hanumandal?!
Yes, permission is taking longer than usual for chapter 18.
Yes, experiences are processed before and after Arpanam. But Arpanam sent by a devotee has no relation to whether his experience will get replied to or not. If experience is sincere, we process it in Sakshat Hanuman Pooja. The screening team has no way to know whether the devotee who has submitted an experience sent Arpanam or not. They only have access to data of time spent by devotee on each chapter. Screening of experiences is done based on that data and the sincerity of content of experience. If a devotee has sent Arpanam, it gets clubbed together with experience after screening so that his/her Arpanam and experience are processed together if possible.
Sakshat Hanuman Pooja is similar to Charan Pooja but unlike Charan Pooja, Lord Hanuman's physical presence is not there in Sakshat Hanuman Pooja. Only His angelic presence is there.